Season 5 Cast Stuff
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I wrote a response to
wraithfodder's post that includes the actual Press Annoucnement to season 5. http://wraithfodder.livejournal.com/169871.html
This is a dicussion/reaction to Season 5's cast stuff and stuff. Don't read if you don't want to know such news.
My reply to her sums up my ractions, so yes, I'm lazy and putting it here.
I've thought about things and here's where I stand.
Woosley.
I think he's pretty cowardly, doesn't have the stones to make good choices and is too rash because his real, actual experience is reports. Which makes him sort of interesting. He's not likable..I mean he's not a jerk and a decent guy, but he's IOA...and will appear to be their puppet. As Joe Flanigan has said, its no fun with 'everyone' gets along and I'm sure Joe/Sheppard will have fun with that increase in tension and drama.
Someone like Woolsey is what I think TPTB wanted all along in that position. A paper pusher, make command decisions, and not the type of guy who went off world. It makes John the expert on military matters and in charge again. Makes McKay an expert on everything techy. I don't think the TPTB ever thought Elizabeth would ever grow as a character and become a fan favorite so when she pushed for moreāand it what was beyond what they intended for the role, we saw the result.
Also with needing a Season 5 pick up they went with Carter in hopes of ratings and the fact she's a familiar face and all around wonderful actress. I hope they make use of her appearances wisely when she does come on board, but honestly I fear cast bloat and would be happy with only a few.
Carson.
Yay he's back! I'll take five episodes, wished for more. Honestly ideally they would cut Keller back and give HIM more screen time, but if they both have to share, Id rather have him more prominent role in fewer episodes
Maybe something really bad will happen requiring both Keller and Carson have to team up.
Keller.
If she's staying she needs to be fixed I agree. I don't want more woe is me, background, just make her stronger. And for Pete's sake more compassionate! She's a tin man right now for me. And mousy and weak..I'd like her more if she would get some confidence as you said.
Daniel.
I like him, I do. But I'm already smelling a two-part McKay and Jackson geek fest written my Martin G. Um, let's keep him to a nice two parter, keep it special. I don't want SGA to be the backboard for SG1 people..they had ten years.
With all this craziness and we get nothing on say..I don't know..the TEAM. You know in all my other ensemble casts I always heard what the lead's development and story lines were going to be...I hear crickets.
Sigh.
All this doesn't really bother me if its handled right. They handled season 4 pretty darn well. I love SGA and I'm going to be open and optimistic to all this as I was this year.
As long as the TEAM remains the focus, I'll be find with the support cast.
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This is a dicussion/reaction to Season 5's cast stuff and stuff. Don't read if you don't want to know such news.
My reply to her sums up my ractions, so yes, I'm lazy and putting it here.
I've thought about things and here's where I stand.
Woosley.
I think he's pretty cowardly, doesn't have the stones to make good choices and is too rash because his real, actual experience is reports. Which makes him sort of interesting. He's not likable..I mean he's not a jerk and a decent guy, but he's IOA...and will appear to be their puppet. As Joe Flanigan has said, its no fun with 'everyone' gets along and I'm sure Joe/Sheppard will have fun with that increase in tension and drama.
Someone like Woolsey is what I think TPTB wanted all along in that position. A paper pusher, make command decisions, and not the type of guy who went off world. It makes John the expert on military matters and in charge again. Makes McKay an expert on everything techy. I don't think the TPTB ever thought Elizabeth would ever grow as a character and become a fan favorite so when she pushed for moreāand it what was beyond what they intended for the role, we saw the result.
Also with needing a Season 5 pick up they went with Carter in hopes of ratings and the fact she's a familiar face and all around wonderful actress. I hope they make use of her appearances wisely when she does come on board, but honestly I fear cast bloat and would be happy with only a few.
Carson.
Yay he's back! I'll take five episodes, wished for more. Honestly ideally they would cut Keller back and give HIM more screen time, but if they both have to share, Id rather have him more prominent role in fewer episodes
Maybe something really bad will happen requiring both Keller and Carson have to team up.
Keller.
If she's staying she needs to be fixed I agree. I don't want more woe is me, background, just make her stronger. And for Pete's sake more compassionate! She's a tin man right now for me. And mousy and weak..I'd like her more if she would get some confidence as you said.
Daniel.
I like him, I do. But I'm already smelling a two-part McKay and Jackson geek fest written my Martin G. Um, let's keep him to a nice two parter, keep it special. I don't want SGA to be the backboard for SG1 people..they had ten years.
With all this craziness and we get nothing on say..I don't know..the TEAM. You know in all my other ensemble casts I always heard what the lead's development and story lines were going to be...I hear crickets.
Sigh.
All this doesn't really bother me if its handled right. They handled season 4 pretty darn well. I love SGA and I'm going to be open and optimistic to all this as I was this year.
As long as the TEAM remains the focus, I'll be find with the support cast.
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Date: 2008-02-06 03:14 am (UTC)I like the idea of Woolsey, though. When I initially read the press release, I was taken aback, but if written properly, it could be good.
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Date: 2008-02-06 03:17 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2008-02-06 04:05 am (UTC)I also want to see a Keller and Carson team-up. It would probably Joss my personal fanon about her being his little protege, but I think it would be a fantastic way to compare their characters. (Vanilla versus--I mean...)
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Date: 2008-02-06 09:09 am (UTC)If they had to team up to take care of a major crisis yeah that could be cool.
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Date: 2008-02-06 04:54 am (UTC)"what!! they are changing a hot chick for a bold coward guy with glasses WTF?"
I of course smacked him for the chick remark and of course in return he pointed out my shameless Sheppard drooling and I said: "fine!" and then lost my thread of thought thinking how hot sheppard is lol.
But anyway!! I am curious about this, I have never been too much of a extreme fan that would stop watching the show over cast changes (unless of course Rodney or Sheppard were out).
I will wait an see, this worries me less than the actual season finally who has me freaking out because I know deep in my heart I will cry like baby and suffer greatly of anxiety attacks during the waiting moths for the premier.
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Date: 2008-02-06 09:10 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-02-06 11:26 am (UTC)When it was announced Carter was taking over the expedition, there was this uproar about how she would dominate the show. But so far, she hasn't been seen all that much. So I haven't been upset she joined. Keller on the other hand..... Seriously, how do you get a job going to another galaxy when you're afraid of your shadow. And trees. And bugs. And just about everything else. She just reminds me of some doctor's daughter playing make believe. I would love for Carson to come back full time, but do we really know how he comes back? I mean beyond the whole "what took you so long" in The Kindred. It's the real Carson, but after a year of captivity, how is he?
As far as the core team. I'm not worried, TPTB would have announced in the press release whether any of them were cutting back or leaving. The only thing that has me anxious is that in the description for the season 5 opener, the issues of this season's finale are not mentioned. Granted, it's just a bare bones description, but still. I think I'm going to be biting my nails all summer. And they're pretty short to begin with!
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Date: 2008-02-07 04:29 am (UTC)OMG you made me giggle and laugh but its sooo freaking true. Please Keller grow up and maybe we'll like you more.
The Carson thing will be very interesting I suspect he'll be an expert on all thing Wraith and mutant like and be some research guy and Keller the 'doctor'.
I agree about the season 5 opener, I am hoping they are keeping mum about a lot of details to keep teh tension of teh season 4 opener tense, I'll be ticked off if the resolution is swept under the rug.
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Date: 2008-02-06 05:59 pm (UTC)*cross fingers*
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Date: 2008-02-07 04:35 am (UTC)And I think this is all 'hype' I mean Carter was on every magazine cover because it was news, yet her role was modest and low key which worked doubt very well. They always have to fan the flames of anything 'new' or flashy.
I'm not thrilled about a new military character when they can expand Lorne's role! He's already a fan favorite. On Keller Like I said, if the get rid of the whine and add some layers I'll be fine...oh and learn the right way to perform CPR! its take five minutes to read a how to-chart :-P
Okay, I sound bitter, this is actually my favorite show! promise. Season 4 rocks and I ws very open minded with all those changes when everyoen else was all a grumble.
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Date: 2008-02-07 09:39 am (UTC)You know, my thoughts on that where, that I actually like the idea of having a second team build up and fleshed out a little bit more. Not to take over much screen time from our beloved fantastic four, just to flesh out the scenery, so to speak. Easy to use if you need to show a second, well oiled machinery for support, rescue efforts or simply to talk about if needed and we would be able to actually "recognize" this team as an established item.
And since the new, Pegasus-inexperienced military character has to go *somewhere*, I would like to see this person join Lorne's team. Not taking *away* something from the Lorne-character but making him and his team more established. :-)
Ah, well, we'll see what they come up with. *g* Given how much I enjoyed S4 so far I'm pretty optimistic. :-)
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Date: 2008-02-07 11:28 pm (UTC):D
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Date: 2008-02-07 09:23 am (UTC)That's what I thought too. I think Woolsey as head of the Atlantis-expedition strentghtens the role of the guys and makes for a whole bunch of development-possibilities.
Yes, I think we can expect to see a lot of tension and arguments since he's not an expert at anything except administration and paper-pushing. Making risky decisions about things where the outcome is anything but sure also isn't his thing and I guess we can expect seeing clashes on this topic too. There's such a lot of potential with Woolsey here, I really like this. :-)
Plus, we already know from the way he handled Elizabeth's and Sam's performance review in the end of the respective episodes that he's able to occasionally show an surprising amount of insight and thoughtfulness for such a paper-pusher. Which means, there's already room for a possible direction of development.
Living in the Pegasus-galaxy and having your hide saved more or less regularly by people who have a tendency of not looking *too* close at regulations sometimes might also make you reconsider your priorities and loyalities. Could make him pretty creative on the "how to write a report to earth"-front. ;-) After all, I guess the last thing he would want is having one of his most competent people removed while he has to *stay* with lesser competent ones. *g*
Oh yes, I think we can expect a lot of tension, thrill and fun from this casting decision. :-)
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Date: 2008-02-07 11:31 pm (UTC)And I love the idea of tensions, of arguing because I see that happening and gives the whole cast more ways to get into meatier scenes and gives us more growth and development.