H50 Meta Questions

[kristen999]

Okay. I’m trying to wrap my head around some of the H50 meta because I think I’m missing an obvious piece of info and I know you lovely people will encapsulate it for me and I’ll go ‘doh’!


Question(s) Under the cut. Spoilers through 2x14.




Why did Joe fake Hiro’s death? I know it is because Wo Fat wants him dead, but why?

I ‘think’ it is because Wo Fat is just trying to get rid of loose ends, right? But why does Joe care if he dies?

Which leads to my biggest question---Wasn’t Hiro the person responsible for Steve’s mother’s death? He had his brother (Koji) put the bomb on the car that killed his mom although it was meant for Jack. Right?

Because if Hiro Was responsible. Shouldn’t Steve be furious that Joe helped him?

Or did I miss the part where we were told that Hiro wasn’t responsible for Steve’s mother’s death. And if so, who is? Because Wo Fat would have been what in his 30’s at that time and wasn’t he still with the Chinese military?


Or should I just stop right now?

After getting over the whole Shelburne thing, I realized I really liked last night’s eppy.

Thank you!! *blows kisses*

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[mischief5.livejournal.com]

Let's see if I have this right.

1. Wo Fat is tying up loose ends.

2. Hiro worked with Wo Fat, has information on him, ordered Koji to kill Steve's father, and is now a loose end himself.

3. By hiding Hiro, Joe has living evidence of Wo Fat's connection to the murder of Steve's mother and Steve's father.

4. The Governor was a loose end. She was working with Hiro, and with Wo Fat, to keep Steve where Wo Fat could find him and get information about "Shelbourne." (Keep your friends close but your enemies closer.) By killing her, Wo Fat tied off that loose end and set up Steve for her murder.

5. "Shelbourne" was the alias Jack and Joe used to distract Wo Fat. Jack gave that alias to Wo Fat and the Governor during his "official" investigation of the Yakuza.

6. "Shelbourne" killed Wo Fat's father, who worked with the Yakuza. Joe claims he was using the alias when he killed the elder Wo.

7. Since Wo Fat is still looking for "Shelbourne" for revenge -- and is afraid of him for the information he supposedly has concerning Wo Fat's activities with the Yakuza -- I believe Mrs. McGarrett's death has nothing to do with "Shelbourne." Jack McGarrett was targeted due to his continued investigation of the Yakuza and the fact that he had connected Hiro to Wo Fat (and possibly Wo Senior).

Questions: Was Wo Fat involved with the Yakuza before or after his father's death? How long was he in the Chinese Army?

Speculation 1: I think Wo Fat came into the Yakuza before his father was killed. It takes time to build trust in any organization, let alone organized crime. Wo Fat would have to build his own reputation; nepotism only goes so far, especially if your sponsor is dead. Ergo, his father was alive long enough for Wo Fat to make his bones.

Speculation 2: While both Joe and Jack used "Shelbourne" as a decoy, Joe stated clearly that he promised to protect Steve and his sister. He even went so far as to protect Hiro's son, Adam. By lying to him. That simple, anti-climactic announcement of the "Shelbourne" alias and its purpose, after Joe fought so hard to keep Steve out of the loop, reeks of a bald-faced lie. Either Jack killed Wo Fat's father, or Joe knows "Shelbourne" is a real person and is trying to find him and/or protect him, or Joe doesn't know who "Shelbourne" is any more than anyone else and is trying to find him before Wo Fat does.

How's them apples?

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

OMG soooooo many apples!!!

I can't decide which speculation I side because are both are plausible and interesting.

I'm just glad I wasn't the only person someone baffled by a few of these dangling plot threads :-P

Thanks for the bullet points!

[mischief5.livejournal.com]

I've been thinking (Why are you laughing? Because I've been thinking?) about Mrs. McGarrett's murder. We know Jack "retired" after she died and he sent Steve and Mary Ann to the mainland.

The most he had done at the time of her murder was the official investigation into the Yakuza in Hawaii. Everything else came after that: the camera in the governor's office, the "Shelbourne" info, the items in the toolbox, all of it. That was all Jack's private investigation, sanctioned by the Governor.

Mrs. McGarrett's murder was supposed to stop Jack.

So why would he retire? Everyone said he was a "good" cop. Chin says he was a good cop. Send his kids away, maybe. But retire?

Not unless he no longer saw himself as a "good" cop.

I think Jack got his hands dirty by killing Wo Senior in revenge for killing his wife. "Good" cops don't do that. So he retired.

Joe knows good cops don't do that. But as a Navy SEAL, he's prepared to take the heat for his friend and give Steve some closure.

I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop and Steve to say, "Wait, that was too easy."

And re: Mrs. McGarrett still being alive? We saw what happened to the Governor's assistant. Steve's mother was killed the same way. Either another body was put in her place or she's very dead. Pick one. But if another body was there, why? And why the hell would a Hawaiian housewife kill a member of the Yakuza? And how? You'd have to come up with something reasonable to sell me on the idea that Mrs. McGarrett was some kind of secret agent/ninja assassin willing to abandon her family just to kill one man.

Either that or Wo Senior made a heavy pass at her, she accidentally killed him, and Hiro and Joe faked her death to protect Jack and the kids. Which leads to Joe returning the favor.

OMG, that's just ridiculous enough to make sense.