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[personal profile] kristen999
I'm re-posting a modified version of my saving documents tips from last November because in the last two weeks, I've seen a half a dozen F-List disasters that have resulted in the loss of their stories, fics, or drafts. (Hugs you guys. I've been there)


I save all the time when I write. Pretty much after every few paragraphs I hit save. It's just one keystroke and it becomes a habit.

Don't just save to your hard drive.

Save your story to a flash-drive or to some other source. The one time you write 2k in one night is the one time your HD fails. A 4 GB flash drive is under $10 and can hold hundreds of novel length books. External hard drives are also great but can be pricey.

Use a free online app. Googledocs and Dropbox are online services that allow you to save tons of documents, edit them, and share privately with others like your beta.

Every time you write, e-mail yourself a copy of your fic. It's habitual. This way if your computer is hit my lightening, you've saved the latest version of your fic that is accessible from anywhere. I swear it becomes like second nature. When I'm done writing for the night, I send myself the doc. (I always delete the old one in my inbox after I send myself the newest one)

I also number my drafts. If I decide to go in and tweak a draft for some reason. I copy it and rename my new file Version 2 or V3, V4, before I make drastic changes. This way if I write for a bit and realize I liked the older version better--I have the older version in my writing folder.

Whatever you do, whatever works best for you. Make it a HABIT. And do not just save in one spot or use one method. Use more than one.

Date: 2012-04-23 03:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] embroiderama
Oh yes, I agree with this! I don't rely on flash drives anymore after having one fail on me--I was using it as the main place to store a long story I was working on so that I could go back and forth between work and home computers with the same document. Then something in the flash drive got scrambled and I ended up having to go through hundreds of tiny scraps of data to find as much of the story as possible. Google docs is my friend now.

Date: 2012-04-23 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristen999.livejournal.com
E-mailing myself has been my best practice and I back-up to a flash-drive once a week since I have every draft in my G-mail. I started messing around with Googledocs recently and that looks great.

I've never had issues with my flash-drive, but that goes to show that saving it it more than on spot is the key! Glad you were able to piece it back together.

Date: 2012-04-23 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iam-space.livejournal.com
So right, so right. /o\

But I didn't do it, Kristen... whyyyyyyyyyyyy?!?!?!?!?!?!?! UGH.

Date: 2012-04-23 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristen999.livejournal.com
Uh, what?? Did you lose something babe? I didn't see anything on your LJ. I saw someone on my f-list last night and that made five or six in the last couple of weeks.

Oh, no!! Was it yours or something you were betaing?

Date: 2012-04-23 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iam-space.livejournal.com
Yeah, was mine. I'm sick. Cause I absolutely HATE rewriting with a passion. If it really is lost, then this story will never be told (not that it will mean the end of humanity as we know it or something, but). Ugh ugh ugh.
Edited Date: 2012-04-23 03:23 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-04-23 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristen999.livejournal.com
Oh, hon. I hope you get your laptop back and running!! If it wasn't too long maybe it'll come back to you better than ever.

((HUGS))

Date: 2012-04-23 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristen999.livejournal.com
I just checked Twitter! I'm sorry, babe!!!!

Date: 2012-04-23 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] black-raven135.livejournal.com
mighty fine banner this AM
>;-)

Date: 2012-04-23 03:35 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-04-23 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azziria.livejournal.com
Excellent advice :)

Years of writing (both fanfic and for a living) have made hitting Control-S a reflex reaction - every time I pause to think I do it. And I'm always careful when dragging files to copy and replace, too - I once lost an entire day's work because I wasn't concentrating and managed to replace the new file with the old... luckily the last thing I'd done before backing up was print the document out, so it was only (only!) a copytyping job to get it back.

I write onto a flash drive (easy to move between computers, and easy to remove and lock away so that my kids won't inadvertently stumble on Mom's porn when they borrow my laptop without permission... grrr... and no difficult questions about why all the documents are locked...). However at the same time as writing I also post to a locked LJ or Dreamwidth post as I'm going along (because I find it easier to read what I've written with an objective eye if it's posted, plus I can read my progress so far on my smartphone) so I always have a backup.

I occasionally use Google docs too, but I find it slow and laggy on one of the computers I use regularly, so I tend not to use it if I've access to LJ or DW.

Date: 2012-04-23 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristen999.livejournal.com
The last few fics I've written I've posted on an filtered-list for my alpha readers so that is also a great method! I code my fic for HMTL as I write so posting them on LJ like that is great to preview if the italics are working :D

I had to giggle about the flash-drive and your kids, but that is another great use for it! :-P

(On a side note, I just realized we wont get a trailer to 2.22 until the crossover is over because tonight's trailer will probably be for part two...*pouts*)

Date: 2012-04-23 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azziria.livejournal.com
I code for HTML as I write too, so I really need that preview to see the text 'uncluttered'.

Date: 2012-04-23 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verasteine.livejournal.com
Save to hard drive, back up to Dropbox, and email all drafts to bff for safekeeping. Yep.

I don't work with multiple drafts, so I rarely have versions, unless I abandoned a draft or scene, in which case it does go into a separate document and get numbered (deleted scene 1, etc.)

Date: 2012-04-24 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristen999.livejournal.com
I'll do multiple drafts as a 'just in case' thing with my fics that are 30k or more, but haven't needed them in a while. But it's great to have that net.

Date: 2012-04-23 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gaffsie.livejournal.com
What's funny is that just a couple of weeks ago I started saving all my stuff online. I just took a break once I was done with my pictures...

Date: 2012-04-24 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristen999.livejournal.com
It takes so long to transfer things. Sigh. (hugs)

Date: 2012-04-23 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shinysylver.livejournal.com
I've been emailing stuff to myself since college and I love being able to find papers from a decade ago in my email.

I realize that I have gotten a bit lax lately though. Most of my stuff is backed up on my external but I haven't been emailing or uploading to gdocs as much as I should be.

*runs off to back up*

In related news, I should better label things because my WIP and abandoned scenes that sometimes get mined for new fic are impossible to identify after a few weeks.

Date: 2012-04-24 12:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristen999.livejournal.com
I'm surprised how helpful it's been to e-mail myself stuff. Oi, I hear you on the naming files things that make sense! lol

Date: 2012-04-23 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] powrhug.livejournal.com
I have my documents on autosave. My problem wasn't with not saving, it was that my computer decided to shut down while my file was open, therefore rendering it corrupt for some odd reason.

Date: 2012-04-23 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] powrhug.livejournal.com
oh, ha! Which totally doesn't mean your tips aren't awesome, because they are!

Date: 2012-04-24 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristen999.livejournal.com
Hee! No problem. Autosave is great most of the time except when it lost one of my docs once. I just like to have more than one method.

Date: 2012-04-23 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mischief5.livejournal.com
Thank you for the reminder! (Just saved all my WIPs to my flashdrive.) And I like your idea of posting drafts to a locked LJ post. I do find a lot of typos once the story is up on the net. Hmm. You've given me some interesting thoughts, my dear!

Date: 2012-04-24 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristen999.livejournal.com
It's surprising how often I pick up on typeos when I read things on a locked LJ post.

Date: 2012-04-23 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jimandblair.livejournal.com
I started email myself docs, after your Nov advice. It's grand. I do still back up to an external hard drive.

what is actually hilarious is that I hit control-s pretty much continuously as I write. But now, even if reading a hardback book, I will actually, wiggle my fingers in control-s movement ever now and again, and then completely throw myself out of whatever I'm reading -- because it doesn't work with paper!

Date: 2012-04-24 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristen999.livejournal.com
Lol on you reading a hard copy book and trying to hit the save key!

Did you see my Steve needs a hug pic I posted on your LJ over the weekend?

Date: 2012-04-23 09:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] astridv.livejournal.com
So true, that's good advice. The other day I realized that if my HD gave out now, I'd be -well, not screwed, but inconvenienced on two work projects. I still have the jpg files in gmail but I'd have to manually reconstruct all the layers. Next time I booted up the computer, first thing was to make copies. I have to try and make it a habit of doing that once a week at least.

The times my old computers crashed it was always so slo-mo that I had plenty of time to save my data so I've been getting careless.

Date: 2012-04-24 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristen999.livejournal.com
I've lost my fair share of things before and see so many people lose tons of work so I just wanted to pass along these tips.

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