Eeek,...almost here!

[kristen999]

I'm at work trying to get my last minute to do-list together. There was so much more I wanted to get done before I skipped town. Like I dunno, a few crit reviews I owe a writing group. I might squeeze one in before tonight.

Checked the weather and it's going to be as hot as Hades in D.C, so I'm trying to find a hat that covers the top of my head because the train station between Baltimore and Union station has no shade! (That's tougher than it appears since most were sold during teh spring, but I'm Target bound)But I did find my swimsuit! Woot.

I have my copy of jo_graham's "Stealing Fire" to read on the trip and my small notebook for any plot ideas I've been mulling over for the Help-Haiti story. Speaking of.....

I'm a small details person so my f-list here's a question that I might want to know for the next story.


I'm looking for the comparison of characters, not the actor's ages. Why does it matter? I don't know, like I said. I'm a detail person :D ANd it's a poll! Everyone loves them!

[Poll #1591346]


EDIT. I find the idea that there is no clear consensus on this question to be fascinating :D

Comments

[juniperphoenix]

You could extrapolate Cam's birth year from the high school reunion he attended in "Bounty" (2007); according to Wikipedia it was his 20-year reunion.

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

So, that would make Cam 38 in 2007 if he was 18 when he graduated high school. Oddly enough I can't find anything about Sheppard's birth date. (You'd think there would be a screen cap of a document or something) I'd always thought Cam slightly older, but now....huh.

Thanks for the tip!

[juniperphoenix]

Sheppard's birthdate is never mentioned in the series — which is annoying, yeah. Most of the fanon I've seen uses either 1967 (Joe Flanigan's birth year) or 1968 (Rodney's birth year, given in "Quarantine").

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

I could have Cam be the same age as John then. It doesn't really have a direct impact on the scene, I just want to be canonly correct :-P

Love your icon!

[friendshipper.livejournal.com]

I'm pretty sure Sheppard's birth date was never pinned down in canon. Rodney's birthdate was used for a password once, so we know what it was (1968) but I'm pretty sure there is nothing likewise for any of the other characters (and I've hunted for it!). The general fannish consensus seems to be to use the actor's age, but I don't see any reason why you'd have to (and in fact there are a number of cases in which the character seems evidently a different age than the actor playing them, like Keller, or -- canonically -- Teal'c ... in fact, come to think of it, if Cam was supposed to be 38 in 2007, then the character is several years younger than the actor).

[kazbaby]

in fact, come to think of it, if Cam was supposed to be 38 in 2007, then the character is several years younger than the actor).

Yeah, Ben was 44 in 2007. He usually ends up playing a character 5-10 years younger than his age.

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

I know I'm being really nit picky about the age thing, but it's for the very reason you mentioned. The actors do look a different age than the character. It makes me wonder what canon age they are supposed to be :-P

If we use Joe's real age, then that makes him a year older than Cam and I always had this odd impression that Cam was 'supposed' to be a few years older than Sheppard.

hmmmm.

[saphirablue]

Hm, interesting question! I don't think that canon mentioned a birthdate/age for John, but in my fannish opinion Cam is either the same age or 1 to 3 years older than John. Something in this range feels "right" for me...

And: Have a nice holiday! :)

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I agree. Cma just feels slightly older to me.

[tridget.livejournal.com]

In SG1's "Collateral Damage," memory sequence, Mitchell says:

"We're watching the launch of the first Space Shuttle. I can't be much more than ten years old.

That was 1981 which means he was born 1971 or earlier.

Here's a pic: Collateral Damage Pic One and here: Collateral Damage Pic Two.

The child clearly does not look 13. So at the earliest he was born 1969. If he was 38 in 2007, that would fit with 1969 as his birthdate.

Sheppard, I am not so sure about.

[coolbreeze1.livejournal.com]

I picked same age as John Sheppard, based solely on the Stargate Wiki, which lists Mitchell's birth year as 1970, and Sheppard's birthday as June 14, 1970. I have no idea where they got Sheppard's birthday - I don't ever remember hearing this in any of the episodes. I thought I remembered McKay being thrilled to find out he was younger than SHeppard, but I can't remember if that was in the show or in fanfic. It could have been fanfic.

Without that possibly false Wiki statement, I could imagine Sheppard being either the same age or a few years older than Mitchell, maybe 2-3 years at the most. Mitchell's a Lieutenant Colonel when he takes over SG-1 (2005) but I don't know SG:1 well enough to remember if he was promoted after the Battle of Antarctica (and there seemed to be quite a long recovery for him between that and his eventual takeover of SG-1), or if he was already a Lt.Col at that time. Sheppard is promoted to Lt. Col. in 2005, so maybe within a year of Mitchell? But Sheppard also had that black mark on his record to contend with, which could have stalled his career for a few years... Intriguing... you've got my mind spinning now. I wish they'd told us Sheppard's age in the show at least.

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

It seems that based on "Bounty" that Cam was 38 in 2007....ponders John. Both men look younger than thier actual age :-P

[seticat.livejournal.com]

My guess of 5+ years is based on respective ranks: COL vs MAJ as seen at the beginning of SGA. It takes a bit to make it up the food chain.

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

I thought Cma was a few years older, so I might stick with. Most think he's about the same age as John or a bit older.

[crashbarrier.livejournal.com]

Just by going from sibling gut instinct.. I would stake money that Cam is older than Sheppard.. its just the way the two interact when they meet.

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

My gut says Cam is a bit older, based on the poll most people think Cam and John are the same age of a bit older which rings with me.

[linzi5.livejournal.com]

I said 4-5 years older, just because I think he is. He does look older than Shep, IMO, and I know the actors real ages and well, I just always thought Mitchell was a little older. I don't really mind how old they are, to be honest and I always figured both actors were playing younger men on screen. So, um, I still think Mitchell is older! LOL!

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

Both Joe and Ben look younger than their age, but I'm leaning toward Cam being a couple years older, so that'll work :D

[sgafan.livejournal.com]

I've never given it a lot of thought, or researched it but he always struck me as being about the same age as Shep. :)

[sgafan.livejournal.com]

oh yeah... and have a super fantastic fabulous trip ;) Stay cool!

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

I think I might go with Cam being two years older, reaching a happy medium. Oh the thought for such a tiny detail :-P

[sgafan.livejournal.com]

LOL!! For sure! ;)

[rubygirl29.livejournal.com]

I missed the poll part, but after looking up Ben Browder and Joe Flanigan's birthdays I've settled on the 4-5 years older than Sheppard. Browder was born in 1962 and Joe in 1967, according to IMDB.

I've always thought Cam was older just because he was a Lt. Colonel well before Sheppard. I write him as being just a bit older than Sheppard.

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

I went out of town, but I agree with the idea that Cam is a few years older than John and def get the vibe that he is. Maybe I WILL use their real birth dates :D

[novembersga.livejournal.com]

I don't have anything concrete to go on but my 'impression' has always been that Mitchell is a little older than Sheppard.

Come to think of it, Cam was a Lt. Colonel when Sheppard was a Major. Considering Caldwell is a Colonel, it seems it would take awhile to reach a new rank. (Sheppard's rank seemed to fit him in season one, IMO. He seemed young to me)

It's not a drastic difference, but Cam has always seemed to be a bit older. This is based on no facts what-so-ever. It's just the way the characters 'feel' to me.

(Been away for awhile...I have a lot of catching up to do it seems, including that epic story you wrote....can't wait)

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

It's great to see you! I just got back from vacation and trying to catch up. I'm going to lean toward Cam being a few years older, based on his rank and the vibe I get.

Hope you enjoy "Red Sands" :D

[isidra.livejournal.com]

I don't know if it helps, but one of the newspaper articles we see in Outcast gave John's father's age as 69. Which could mean he was pretty young when John was born, or John's supposed to be a bit younger than Flanigan.

[susnn.livejournal.com]

I've always thought that Sheppard was younger than Cam and Sam by quite a bit. Just something about the way he interacts with them. I'd actually go the five+ range myself.

Still think it's high time Sheppard got promoted to bird though. What does the guy have to do? Command the military in another galaxy without support for a year and then at the end of a very long supply chain thereafter? Routinely save the mission from assorted natural, unnatural and human opponents? Make allies out of would be enemies? ;-)

[susnn.livejournal.com]

Then again, I thought that the way Sheppard interacted with Dave made Dave the elder brother. Having been around multiple sets of brothers in friends' and cousins' families, that was the vibe I got.

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

Hehehe, it is high time, isn't it?

*whistles*

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

Hmmm, yeah I remember seeing that about Sheppard's father's age. Joe 'looks younger' than his real age so that might very be the case.