H50 3x01 Ramble

[kristen999]

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First off, I watch this show for fun and the love of characters. Season openers/ enders tend to be fast and action heavy, I wasn’t expecting anything less here.

I wish we could have had a panning shot of Steve the moment he stepped into the door until he entered the house, it would have given us more insight in the way he dealt with the shock. That being said ---I loved the conversation between him mom. He was angry, distrustful, but also a man of action. He wasn’t going to let her hide away anymore.

OMG the Wo Fat rescue. Ridiculous but awesome. I’m not going to complain about the silliness of it. Hubby said he wondered if the writers sit around trying to figure out how to make every scene “awesome" and not logical. He loved it…lol

He also wondered if the writers eat a bunch of sugar and smoke weed, but he said that in this happy, fun voice.

:-P

The cargument with Danny and mama was good. I liked the way he got a dig into her and many people have complained about the way she treated Danny, what right does she have to lecture him about parenting skills and I think that was the point, right?

The irony and need to be on the defensive and judgmental because of her own guilt? I could be giving the writers too much credit maybe.

I like her; I like her because I dislike her and kind of admire her brashness. It’s interesting.

I also liked how Steve’s emotions slipped in and out in the eppy. I read the whole scene with Danny about moving to Vegas differently than most. It wasn’t about Steve trying to convince Danny to move. It was about not wanting Grace to be hurt in the middle of a huge fight. How much did Steve’s parents’ secrets destroy him and Mary? He’s just projecting and processing. I thought it was very telling.

Oh, Chin. I’m ecstatic he gets a meaty storyline. He killed me throughout the eppy, and really shined throughout. Killing Delano is going to bite him big time. I don’t think it was a ‘look I got justice’ and more like look, it didn’t change a damn thing. Or that could be me. (I'd rather Malia was still alive. The track record for female character is not good in this show)

I have no idea what is going on with Wo Fat and Doris. It’s obvious they knew each other. Not only did she not kill him ---he didn’t kill her! I mean how old was he when she killed his dad and he's been 'after her' ever since? huh? *moving on*..lol

Adam and Kono. I don’t get it, but I do kind of like it. Um..

I liked Catherine in this. I’ve always liked her and I think the fact that mama asked her if she loved Steve and she didn’t have a chance to answer is very telling. There’s going to be some interesting stuff here and I can’t wait.

That last scene with mom. Steve’s face! He’s so hurt and distrustful. It’s natural for him to hug her and be conflicted and that whole scene killed me. And of course Danny’s is upset on Steve’ behalf at the end and wow. I really need to re-watch it again. Beautiful shot of the two of them.

I wanted more Steve emotion and hope we'll get more throughout the season when there isn't so much packed into one eppy. (not enough Danny, against I blame it on a fast eppy) But it was a set up for the rest of the season and I enjoyed it. I am very stoked for the whole season.It is going to be awesome!!! \o/

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[tailoredshirt.livejournal.com]

Totally agreed on Steve not wanting Grace to get hurt. I need to rewatch the whole episode again to solidify my thoughts, but I actually thought it was nice that he saw that side of the picture. He's worried about Grace but he's also worried about Danny's relationship with her, which is more selfless than wanting him to stay. I wish we got a little more in-depth in that scene, because I do think it was lacking something, but of course there was so much going on already.

I wish we'd gotten more Steve emotion too, but I'm hoping that'll come in next week's episode when he's processing her being gone and they have a little more room and time to do it justice.

I think Wo Fat's her son. I thought that when she was cagey about what the mission was re: Wo Fat's dad. Sounded like she slept with him. I'm kind of headdesking because it was thrown out as a joke/crack prediction a couple of times last year, and now...yeah, I can't think of any other explanation.

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

*nods*

I think Steve's selflessness regarding Grace was quite sweet, coming from a guy who had no real childhood after his mom 'died'. The scene did need more, but I caught the subtext and I'm glad I'm not alone in that regard.

I hope Steve's feelings will come out more in 2, and 3. AOL can act! Use him!

Ugh. I hope Wo Fat is not her son, but I would not put that past TPTB...lol

I did enjoy it! Yay it is back!

[tailoredshirt.livejournal.com]

I think a lot of Steve's sweetness comes out with Grace. :)

Yeah, I really really hope it's not true, because I think it'd be way too soap opera-ish and pretty lame, but wouldn't put it past them either. My other theory is that it's something CIA-related. Wo Fat was in bed with the CIA, and now Doris was/is CIA. Kind of curious what the deal with Doris and Wo Fat's father was. I'd be way more interested if it was some fun spy stuff and not...that.

For the most part I enjoyed it too! In the way I usually enjoy this show even when I could drive my car through the plotholes, lol. Mostly I'm just glad it's back and I'm looking forward to next week when we'll get a "regular" ep and not a season premiere on steroids. Want to see the fallout and where they're going with all of this.

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

Hubby has a really complicated CIA theory, too, but it was out there...and nothing to do with mother/son.

I think eppys 2 and 3 will really set the pace :)

[powrhug.livejournal.com]

We had some of the same comments! How funny!

Yeah, not the best ever, but good enough. And the (very few) spoilers I've seen show a lot of really good stuff ahead. I'm excited!

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

We had some of the same comments b/c we're both rock stars! :-P

I think this season is going to rock based on what little I've read :)

[powrhug.livejournal.com]

Rock stars apparently gravitate to each other.

[simplyn2deep.livejournal.com]

I was patting myself on the back for not reading many reviews (2 hrs before and I'd only read 2) but with an hour to go, I went and read all that I could find. sort of wasn't expecting as many mixed reviews as I read, but the common thing was the dislike (or like because she's disliked) of Doris. That might have been my initial reaction based on the cargument clip.

I still have 50 minutes to go. I'm excited.

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

Weeeeee! Enjoy!!

[tridget.livejournal.com]

"I watch this show for fun and the love of characters."

I'm with you totally and I think this episode delivered big time on that. I had that same thought as your hubby about the writers trying to come up with ways to make every moment awesome, and I loved them for doing that. My son and I had a blast watching every twist and turn in this episode.

I also loved that there was so much character drama in with the action. I think that was quite a feat. Each action scene was well rooted in the impact on the characters. It's very much appreciated that such a high-action show never forgets it's still all about the characters.

As always, the cast (both the old and the new members), really throw themselves completely into their performances. I was especially caught up in what was happening for Chin. Very intense and moving. Daniel Dae Kim did a fantastic job with it.

Now, about Delano... Did Chin actually shoot him? We heard a shot, but then again, we heard Doris shoot and she aimed elsewhere. Yes, Delano is dead, but he looked pretty much like he was going to be dead within minutes no matter what Chin did. Either way this is going to be a great storyline for Chin. I'm looking forward to it, although I am sad to see Malia go as I liked her, too.

Yes, I agree with you on the subtext for Steve's conversations. Cleverly done.

Doris - a spy and then her cargument - I can see where Steve gets a lot of his characteristics. Interesting character - she was indeed brash, yet oddly appealing at the same time.

Catherine - I'm often slow to warm to additional cast members, but I think she's great and her presence will make for some interesting character explorations for Steve.

If H50 wanted to start the year with a bang, then they did it with one hour of jam packed action and drama, and some terrific performances. I am actually going to have to re-watch it to take it all in. Most of all, I love how hard the cast a crew worked to make this episode larger than life. It was way at the top of the fun scale.

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

The show is fun and has an amazing ability to balance action and emotional moments. As far as Delano, for all we know he had a hidden gun? I wonder if they're play with that? Either way, Chin is going to have an emotional journey.

I think Steve's going to have even more trust issues now and I think Catherine will bring out s softer side, but I wonder if the both of them are used to not seeing each other much and what seeing each other more will do?

I can't wait for the rest of the season!

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

I really like your comment about Steve thinking about Grace. Yes, that's very clear and it's very clear that's he's projecting a whole lot.

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

Yes, this! He is projecting. He knows how much pain he and Mary went through as kids and he's trying to think of Grace.

[aries-taurus.livejournal.com]

/Points up at origial post and 1st comment/ what you both said!

dislike Doris? Hmm. to me, it felt like an overcompensating mom which makes sense so I wouldn't say I like her but...

My only far is them stretching the Wo Fat storyline too far. In a Mentalist kinda way. We have time though.

OH MY GOD, CHIN!!

i Can't wait for the next few eps.

Ok, it's 4 am, i'm in pain again and can't type so I'll do this when I'm better.

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

Like I read elsewhere, this was a great open a big can of worms eppy :)

[verasteine.livejournal.com]

Hah, I hear you on the action! I love it. It's all this stuff that's theoretically possible but so over the top, and I adore it. It's part of Five-0's charm :).

I like her; I like her because I dislike her and kind of admire her brashness. It’s interesting..

THIS. I didn't have the articulation to say it this way, but yes, this. If she was the lead in her own show, I would adore her. I would admire her sacrifices and love the dark games she's playing, etc. Seeing her from Steve's perspective, I dislike her for the hurt she caused him, but I can't stop admiring her. (I think I want to write her. I was hoping for this reaction, but still, eeeee.)

I agree with what you say. And yeah, it wasn't the best, but I enjoyed it and it was fun and it held my attention and STEVE. Well. EEEEEEEEE.

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

I have it on my computer now and I can watch it with head phones and watch all of the Steve emotions!!! A great way to kick off the afternoon. There as so much to take in and now I can kind of dig into the whole thing!

[verasteine.livejournal.com]

Aaaaahhhh, ALL of the Steve emotions, yes! I will rewatch this evening and gleefully wallow.

So much to take in, I know, it's such a packed eppy! Loved it.

[t-verano.livejournal.com]

only small thoughts right now (need to go back to bed and catch a nap :-)) --

Now that I think about it, I'm actually pretty cool with the level of emo that Steve displayed with/about Doris. I loved (loved loved loved) his initial anger and distrust, and I somehow think that he made a conscious choice after that to be really close to the vest with his emotions. The less you let them know they can hurt you , the less vulnerable you are?

Not exactly that, maybe, but so much was going on and so fast, he couldn't/wouldn't do anything more right now than just deal, on a fairly superficial level, I think. Compartmentalize. Put the anger and the distrust over here (temporarily) to take care of current business. Allow only a little "Mom" emotion in consciously, and only when he couldn't help it. Put everything -- anger, distrust, worry, love, whatever -- away as much as possible to send her off to safety again. (And it was his fault, if he looks at it that way, that she got put in new danger -- she didn't want to come to Hawaii; Steve said it would be safe.)

I don't think he wants to let himself be too vulnerable to Doris, and the classic Steve way to handle that is lock down, stoic, taking care of business, keeping his emotions out of it as much as he can (unless he can use them) but making sure his brain still stays in high (check *everything*, trust nobody; if you're hurting, keep it to yourself) gear.

OTOH, if I watch it again I may get a totally different take. :-))

I loved the Doris vs Danno scene in the car. I'd seen a spoiler clip where it looked like Doris just attacked Danny out of the blue, but they didn't include the lead-in from Danny that I think got Doris's defensive/guilty hackles up. I'm sorta calling that on both of them, not just on Doris -- although I love Danny not liking or trusting Doris and being pissed off on Steve's behalf. I love Doris too because I can dislike her (and understand her). Lovely prickly pushy end-justifies-the-means, my-way-or-the-highway personality; a really interesting, *real*-seeming character with a lot of anger issues and guilt and defensiveness she doesn't want to acknowledge. As Steve's mom, she's a great fit, I think. (I love so much that Steve is the more civilized of the two of them. :-))

I kinda love that Steve didn't look as shocked by Danny's news at the end as he would have if he'd really let himself start trusting Doris. He's being so careful... OTOH -- again -- I need to rewatch this, to get more of Steve's reactions without being rushed off to the next thing before I can process them myself. :-)

And yeah, the scene about Vegas? I agree that was so NOT about trying to get rid of Danny or about Hey, I'm Cool If You Leave, I Won't Even Miss You; it was all about Steve's mom and the effect a parent's choices can have on their children.

small thoughts, but said lengthily. (Big surprise :-)). NOW BACK TO BED.

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

You know, I think you're right. I really liked this eppy, even with all the action there was a oodles of emotion and that is tough. Yes, Steve probably compartmentalized a ton for his own protection and I'm going to re-watch it on my laptop and I bet I'll see even more subtle cues.

Oh, yeah that end. I wonder if Steve was just waiting on that knife to the back and when he got it? *shudders* I'm glad the last shot was Danny standing by his side :)

This was a great kickoff and I'm so happy that the season is here!

[t-verano.livejournal.com]

I was thinking today about another factor, maybe, in the Steve/Doris mess. It may never get on screen (probably won't), but I can't help but think of the role Joe played, since Joe was a family friend back at least as far back as when Doris "died", and a Navy mentor to Steve, and clearly important to him.

A) I think Steve tried valiantly to trust Joe (even if he was losing some of that trust)up until the night he rescued Joe from Adam and Joe more or less stomped on his heart. After that, I find myself thinking that anything Joe is associated with in any way is going to have to bend over backwards to really earn Steve's trust. The days of the free ride are over.

B) At some point Steve is going to want to know how long Joe's known about Doris being alive. If Joe's known for years, how can Steve not see that as another betrayal. Not as deep as Doris's, but still pretty damn deep (and long). No matter whether Steve ever gets convinced intellectually that Doris "dying" (and Joe lying) was the only "safe" route to go -- I think the bridges are burned deep inside Steve.

C) And if the above is true, and Steve will never fully trust Doris again (and it would be hard for him to, especially if her priorities are herself -- as so far seen -- and not Steve and Mary) -- it's this gloriously complicated angsty MESS. Steve has 1) lost a mother to a tragic accident when he was fifteen, and had his life completely turned inside out because of that, and essentially lost his father and his sister. 2) ALSO, gotten that same mother back, but not in a way he can probably ever fully trust her, and there will probably always be some underlying issues of anger/abandonment/guilt between them no matter how happy-happy-joy-joy they may eventually work out to be on the surface. Kinda like double-whammy -- lost your mom, find out that loss was a lie for twenty years... and then you have 3) send her away to keep safe and don't even know where she'll be. Great excuse to not work through any of the issues, but also not helping any with the "gone - here - gone" vibe.

Ack. I could babble about this for decades, probably. It's just so CHEWY.

[jimandblair.livejournal.com]

oh, good. It's funny how (to a certain extent) enjoyment is facilitated through sharing. I... uhmm.... read your cut blurb before I got to see the ep (I've just watched it) and thought 'Ooooh, Kristen didn't like it' 0_o. And the comms are a little quiet, so I made an effort to watch is asap. And it was grand, it was like a movie from start to finish. I can't wait to watch it again.

Okay, yeah, it's ridiculous, but I adore it. I don't like Doris, hilariously, because there's a cold, hard end-game going on there. Wo Fat simply escaped? I was yelling at the telly. In much the same way as every time Jenna Kaye appeared and I simply thought duplicitous, duplicitous, duplicitous... Steve's emotions were all over the map (poor pet), understandably. I like that he is suspicious and accepted Danny's findings. I agree completely with you regarding the cargument, that was Steve projecting and since Danny didn't go off like a rocket, Danny got the undercurrents. It's a fair point, but Danny didn't start the battle.

Oh, Malia, poor Malia. I liked Malia. I'm going to miss saying "You're going to diiiiiie when she had a scene. It was refreshing to have a healthy, respectful and loving relationship on tv, I had hoped that she was going to stay around a little longer.

All in all, I'm happy. I might go write some fic, although to be honest. I better go do some work.

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

I took out my cut blurb. Every year I try to let ppl know that my journal is positive one and to leave any negativity at the door. But it was late and I forgot ppl are aware that I am a fan

This was a good opener and it set up the rest of the season It is amazing how much balance they maintained of action and emotion. Steve ws omg, he ws amazing but so was Chin.

There was a lot to play with and I can't wait for the rest of the season.

[thegrrrl2002.livejournal.com]

Absolutely agreed on everything you said! Especially about Doris. She's complex, she's flawed, and I like that in a female character. They got an actress who can really carry that off, and who works really well with Steve. Their scenes were golden.

many people have complained about the way she treated Danny, what right does she have to lecture him about parenting skills and I think that was the point, right?

Yes, exactly!

I feel like now that they've tied up everything from the finale last season, we can dig into the good stuff with all the fallout. And it sounds like they're going to do just that. I'm looking forward to the rest of the season.

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

Complex and flawed is a great combo--just like a certain SEAL :)

My hubby loves the fact that they wrap up things and started awhole new set :)

[ms-artisan.livejournal.com]

I'm pretty sure I need to watch again before I can process it all, but I think my ramble is pretty close to yours :D

Loved Chin (hated Malia being dead), loved Danno and Doris. I though Cath was exactly right, and I so need to watch that opening again, because AOL was just delicious in the way he played Steve through that. SO many emotions *hugs him up*

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

The rewatch is great. I really caught a lot more subtle emotions and Steve's face...OMG, talk about trying to lock things down and his emotion slipping out the cracks.


DDK and AOL knocked it out of the park!

*wibble*

[ms-artisan.livejournal.com]

I love that both of them played it with such understated intensity. It's so defining of both of their characters that they've experienced so much hurt in their lives that they've learned to lock emotion down.

*wibbles with you*

[springwoof.livejournal.com]

I was happy to find out Steve's mom was a secret agent. Steve inherited his Ninja tendencies from Mom! (and I'd love to see a photo of little Stevie in his Cammo Footie pajamas too )

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

We most have all the photos....

:)

[sylvanelfqueen.livejournal.com]

I'll be honest, I was afraid that we were gonna get screwed on the Steve emotional front this episode so I was very happy to see just how emotional he got during that scene with his mom (and then later with Danny). I loved that Cath had a badass moment taking out that guy! I love her and am so happy they are going to be using her more this season!

I read that Steve/Danny scene the same way. He wasn't trying to push Danny to move, he's just warning him of what'll happen to his daughter if he and Rachel get into an ugly battle. I actually loved that he said something because I'm not sure he would've said something before, you know before his mom came back.

I have a love/hate relationship with Doris. I love that her character is strong and brash and flawed. I love that they've really given the character depth that we've just barely scratched the surface of. But I do hate that she's already lied to Steve and broken his heart twice in the same episode. And yeah ... I'm still a little confused about how long Wo Fat's been after her ... I assumed he was around the same age (if not a little older) than Steve. So he's been hunting her since he was a teen? And yeah, not sure what happened in that room but my mom is on the fact that he was on that plane with Doris.

I really loved this episode. I'm really optimistic for the rest of the season! :D

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

Yeah. They made the most with every non-action scene, packing so much with nonverbal acting and facial expressions.

Doris. OMG. Yeah. She is still lying to Steve and it is really heartbreaking. I think we have so many pieces to a big jigsaw puzzle. I do love the fact that Steve didn't just accept her with open arms, he was honest with his anger but he wasn't about to lose her again.

[umbiquitin.livejournal.com]

I got to watch the episode today...have re watched several times, (with chocolate;-)). Steve is so hurt that it's almost heartbreaking to watch that first scene. Alex plays it so well! Steve also seemed so happy to see Catherine:-) Loved the ep. Very much looking forward to what's to come...

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

Yeah, this was a fantastic start to the season, I'm looking forward to it.

[gwalchmai345.livejournal.com]

*nods along with everything you've written* You just reminded me of about a dozen things I forgot to mention in my own episode ramblings, but the good thing is, you've already said them, so I don't need to anymore. ;-) I loved this eppy lots and I completely agree that this season is going to be awesome!

More Danny and more Steve emotion would be great, perhaps we'll get that in one of the next eppys. As you said, this one was so packed that there wasn't really any room for more. I think we see Steve's mom the same here - "I like her because I dislike her" hits the nail on the head. ;-) I'm so intruiged by the Doris-Wo Fat mystery! Chin was wonderful throughout. I wish Malia would still be alive, too, but at least we got some great heartbreaking grief.

I read the whole scene with Danny about moving to Vegas differently than most. It wasn’t about Steve trying to convince Danny to move.
Huh. I have to admit I never would have thought about seeing it that way. It's just typical for Steve to think of Gracie first, especially - as you already said - considering his own family history. I may have wanted him to say something else, but I guess that's just not in his nature.

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

I've had a chance to re-watch this and I'm still very impressed with all the emotion they were able to balance with the crazy action.

I'm looking forward to more Doris because yeah, I want to see her answer for what she has done, but at the same time...wow she's one tough broad.

[gaelicspirit.livejournal.com]

I haven't read the rest of the comments, so sorry if I'm going over old ground. I've been dying to talk to you -- to ANYONE -- about the show all day. Dang work! :)

Okay, Mama McGarrett. I don't know. I like the actress a lot and I think there's a good amount of meat there to propel Steve through the season and like you, I'm hoping that her storyline offers more moments of emoting for Steve. His reaction to her was so controlled; he moved like there was a fist around him. It had me aching for him. :(

She kinda made me snarl. I didn't like how she stepped back into the "Steven, watch your mouth" type mom person. I felt my hackles rise at that, thinking she pretty much gave up the right to behave as his mother when she abandoned him, set his life on this course, and set the events into motion that got his father murdered on the phone with him.

I did think it was amusing that he reacted with an instinctive "Sorry."

LOVED how subtly protective Danny was of him, though. How he managed to land a few quiet blows on Mom that said, hey, he's been through enough - don't you dare make it worse.

It wasn’t about Steve trying to convince Danny to move. It was about not wanting Grace to be hurt in the middle of a huge fight. How much did Steve’s parents’ secrets destroy him and Mary? He’s just projecting and processing. I thought it was very telling.

I see exactly that. The way he said that Grace was the one who'd be hurt, then kinda looked away -- all cockiness, all brashness gone from his voice -- he wasn't telling Danny to go, he was saying "be careful...however you do this, just...be careful."

CHIN! Gah, he made me cry. Real tears. I've been watching a lot of old school 21 Jump Street late at night when I can't sleep, and there's an episode in season 2 where Tommy Hanson's (Johnny OMGYUM Depp) gf is killed and he obsesses over the 3.3 seconds that he didn't do anything to stop it. When he gets the bad guy, Captain Fuller asks him if he got the 3.3 seconds back and he says no. That's what I saw on Chin's face when he said Delano was dead.

LOVE Catherine. More of her please. With Steve. And the smiles he gives her.

The last scene with Steve standing in the hanger in the light of the setting sun was just gorgeous. GOR-geous. I need an avi with that shot. :) When Danny gave him the news that Doris let Wo-Fat go, the hubs and I instantly started speculating. She killed the guy's father, but Wo-Fat didn't know who she was -- he only knew the name "Shellburn." So there had to be something about his seeing her for the first time -- or maybe her seeing him for the first time.

So we started talking about how she was an agent before she met Papa McGarett and what sort of life had she led and WHY did she kill Wo-Fat's father...and the hubs goes, "Maybe she's actually Wo-Fat's mom, too."

He was totally kidding, but I was like, whoa. what. if. I have a feeling whatever it is will rattle Steve to his bones. I want to see the Steve that yelled, "I was TORTURED over Shellburn!" to Joe White. I want to see him lose that freakin' tough-as-nails control over his emotions. Just for a bit. ;)

SO glad to have them back -- ridiculous sugar-and-pot-fueled action scenes and all. *GRINS*

[t-verano.livejournal.com]

His reaction to her was so controlled; he moved like there was a fist around him. It had me aching for him.

I totally love how you put that.

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

I ached for Steve so much, he was so self protective and guarded. But he let his anger and hurt slip a lot and he was barely holding back tears there a few times. Poor guy.

I LOVE that 21 Jump Street eppy. I used to own it on VHS and re-watched the eppy a ton. OMG and you're right the theme is so similar and heartbreaking. I think Chin is going to learn the hard way how little Delano's death is going to give him. DDK was awesome

Cath and Steve have such great chemistry her joke about his mommy issues? kajslals And yeah, I want to see his softer side.

The show is back and I'm am silly and stupidly excited!!

[vecturist.livejournal.com]

Think I'm going to have to watch the episode again. Wo Fat's escape was just a little crazy - I imagine the writers were on a sugar high and had just watched a James Bond marathon. Wo Fat certainly seemed surprised at his rescuer - kind of got the impression he felt Delano was beneath him. (Note: HPD must have a rotten mortality rate and they still have moles?). I'm not sure how I feel about Mama McGarrett - love how she was tough, but also get the impression, she felt motherhood crimped her career. Still love the Kamekona moment and little Stevie. I agree the Wo Fat as her son would be too soap-operaish, but maybe she was his step mom at an impressionable point.

Kono was bad-ass, but wish we could have seen some quieter moments between her and Chin dealing with the aftermath since they are family. I like the romance between her and Adam for now - there's a little Romeo and Juliet going on there, plus I think they both are types that see the world in shades of gray because of their respective jobs, and I think Kono would want to date someone just as tough as she is.

Love the cargument. AOL did a nice job with the momentary 'Mom' and then checking his emotions. Love Catherine and her bit in this. However, I think DDK gets the prize for his part as Chin, especially at the end... hope we get to see him dealing with some lingering issues.

[wildcat88.livejournal.com]

For some reason, my DVR did not record the show. Happily, I have On Demand and caught it last night. Agree with you on just about everything here!

I can't help it. I had to hide my eyes over the ridiculous Wo Fat rescue. I can stretch disbelief, but come on...

And I like Mom. Totally disagree with what she did but when I try to put my brain in her place, I can understand. She's tough as nails, tried for a new life, and led killers to her children. From her POV, she felt she had no other choice but to rip herself from their lives but she couldn't just disappear because her enemies would use her family against her.

I kept waiting in the last scene after Danny told Steve that Mom fired 3 shots into the floor and commented on her letting Wo Fat go, for someone, ANYONE, to mention that Wo Fat let her go too. It never occurred to me that she could be his mom too. (Still trying to process that thought.) But I can't really think of any other reason he would back off.

I was also waiting for him to shout, "I love you, Mom!" as she left. *sigh*

Chin. Oh Chin. He broke my heart. How I wish Melia hadn't died. Not only for him not to mourn but because it was so nice to see one of them in a happy place.

I love Adam. He and Kono are adorable. No red shirt for him, writers!

[saphirablue]

It's been a great episode. Some 'Hmmm' things but all in all I enjoyed this episode very much.

I'm with you with the Grace thing - Steve's trying to protect Grace and get some sense into Danny (and maybe via Danny into Rachel?) that this war between Danny and Rachel will only hurt Grace. So very much. I'm just wondering how they'll solve this but, I guess, the next few episodes will show us how. :)

I love them so very much that they didn't let Steve go 'Oh, Mom is alive, everything is alright again' but that he is hurt, angry/pissed off and wants answers. ♥ The "interogation" in Japan was awesome in this regard!

I'm very curious how the Chin storyline will go on. His breakdown at the end of the episode? *meep* *hugs him*

Adam and Kono? I'm with you. I don't know why but I kind of really like them together. I just hope that there won't be heartbreak for Kono in the future from this. *bites nails*

Catherine? She's awesome. I was thinking that I couldn't love her more and then we get these fantastic scenes of her with Steve, with Mom and on her own. ♥

The Wo Fat and Mom thing? I've been wondering about it too and wonder what the writers will have in store for us...